Gavin Newsom Gives Props to Conservatives Like Charlie Kirk for ‘Flooding the Zone,’ Reveals Teen Son Is a Fan

California Gov. Gavin Newsom is officially a podcaster now, with the first episode of his new program releasing on Thursday. On the show, aptly-if-unoriginally dubbed “This Is Gavin Newsom,” the prominent Democrat was joined by conservative influencer and Turning Points USA co-founder Charlie Kirk.

“You are making a damn dent” in the culture wars, Newsom told Kirk, while adding that his 13-year-old son is a big fan.

Newsom’s maiden voyage as a side-hustling podcaster also made some political news. The governor said he “totally” agreed with Kirk that transwomen should not play in women’s sports — breaking with Democrats on the hot-button issue.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said. “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue.”

He further said, at the same time, it is possible to not “talk down to vulnerable communities” and also treat people with “decency.”

Newsom’s answer comes after 45 Democratic Senators voted against a bill this week that would ban transwomen from playing in women’s sports — an issue that President Trump discussed during his speech before Congress on Tuesday night.

The 57-year-old Democrat also said he disagreed with former Bill Clinton strategist James Carville, who recently called for liberals to make a “strategic political retreat”; Carville argued in The New York Times this would allow Democrats the chance to seize on potential miscues by President Trump that might hurt him in the American public’s eyes.

Newsom said he disagreed, stating that Democrats cannot afford to “play dead.” He said he sees Kirk “flooding the zone” with a steady diet of clips, campus visits and other moves to win over voters, and feels that is the winning formula.

“And then I’m thinking about we’re going to stand back and watch you run circles around us for six months, the next two or three years, waiting for the moment to finally strike?” Newsom said. “It struck me as not necessarily the best advice.”

You can listen to the full 72-minute podcast on Apple or Spotify.

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